{"id":397,"date":"2021-07-16T14:19:40","date_gmt":"2021-07-16T14:19:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.valpo.edu\/devotionals\/2021\/07\/16\/talking-ourselves-into-it-2\/"},"modified":"2025-08-18T20:11:27","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T20:11:27","slug":"talking-ourselves-into-it-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.valpo.edu\/devotionals\/talking-ourselves-into-it-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Talking ourselves into it"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"is-style-lead wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Frequently, we don\u2019t recognize encounters with divine grace when they\u2019re happening. It takes the clarity of the rearview mirror to make it plain and it takes telling the story to reveal its meaning.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-default wp-block-paragraph\">Do believers have to have everything sorted out before they start talking about their faith? Author Thomas Long doesn\u2019t think so. In his helpful little book&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/789809.Testimony\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cTestimony: Talking Ourselves into Being Christian\u201d<\/a>&nbsp;he writes,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>We talk our way&nbsp;<em>toward<\/em>&nbsp;belief, talk our way from tentative belief through doubt to firmer belief, talk our way toward believing more fully, more clearly, and more deeply\u2026 trying to put our faith in words is a part of discovering what we know about God, believe about God, and trust about God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s an account in the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=john+9&amp;version=NRSV\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ninth chapter<\/a>&nbsp;of the Gospel according to John that provides Biblical precedent for this assertion. Jesus heals a man of his blindness. A known beggar in the community, he\u2019s been blind since birth. You might imagine that this miracle would result in some kind of community celebration. Instead, the miracle triggers an investigation into the identity of Jesus with the now-sighted man as the primary witness. Three times he\u2019s questioned about what has happened and each time, his story changes. We might imagine, if someone were telling us about this event, that a witness who changes his story is in big trouble, and he was. But that doesn\u2019t make it all bad. The formerly blind man, when asked about Jesus, goes from a claim of ignorance to a posture of worship in just three questions. To Long\u2019s point, the more he talks about Jesus, the better he gets at it. He becomes clearer and more convinced of Jesus\u2019 identity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s something here for you and me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Faith in our culture is regarded as a private matter. It\u2019s one of those taboo topics. Further, we frequently imagine that if we talk out loud about it, it\u2019s to convince others to our way of thinking. What if Long is right and the experience of the blind man is typical? If that\u2019s the case, then we need to talk as a way to take hold of what we believe for ourselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Frequently this involves remembering. We talk about our faith with the gift of hindsight. It\u2019s hard to recognize the acts of God in the moment. In the rearview mirror everything becomes clearer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Leading worship at the Chapel last Sunday I was again struck by the fact that most of the events we remember in church didn\u2019t happen in church. I was reading my way through the long prayer that gets us into the celebration of Holy Communion. The prayer is a laundry list of divine action: creation of the world, Noah\u2019s salvation through the flood, Israel\u2019s passage through the sea, the teaching and miracles of Jesus. All of this comes in the form of thanksgiving to God in preparation for receiving what we believe to be the body and blood of Jesus as a sign of life for us. Together, we frame our present experience with what\u2019s happened in the past. We talk ourselves into it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is true in our personal lives as well. Frequently, we don\u2019t recognize encounters with divine grace when they\u2019re happening. It takes the clarity of the rearview mirror to make it plain and it takes telling the story to reveal its meaning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The task then is to remember, and having remembered, to speak \u2013 even if imperfectly at first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pr. 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